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Rachel Gertz on Project Management Education

Rachel Gertz of the Louder Than Ten apprenticeship joins Brett Harned to talk about project management education: what they wish they had known, what senior PMs should keep learning, and whether certifications like the PMP are worth it. The conversation widens into the future of the role, strategic versus tactical PMs, positive risk, and how to keep learning when time is scarce.

Key takeaways

  • PM can be lonely and full of imposter feelings; the job is solving problems together and clearing the path, not just checking tasks.
  • Senior PMs should learn business development, requirements gathering and presenting, and think strategically rather than tactically.
  • Certifications can raise pay but some digital employers see a PMP as a sign of rigidity; keep learning, but talk about how you actually work.
  • Treat risk as normal and bring stakeholders into the conversation early instead of trying to control every outcome.
  • When time is short, lean on peers in the community rather than reading lists, and remember self-care is self-discipline.

About this episode

Whether you’re a seasoned PMP or a brand new project leader with no formal training, you’ve likely thought about ways to level up your skillset to make you a better PM and your career. But where do you go to learn? Sure, TeamGantt is a great starting point for classes, resources, and templates, but there’s more. In this episode, Brett talked to PM trainer Rachel Gertz about PM education, and a few related topics:

  • Focusing on the right things as a PM, not just your plans or process
  • How to continue to learn and grow as an experienced PM
  • The value of certifications
  • Where project management is headed
  • Managing risk, and not trying to control everything
  • The advantages of being in command of facts, which allows you to be relaxed

The conversation went in a few different directions, but always came back to the value of being open and ready to learn.

Resources mentioned in this interview include:

Project Management for Humans: Helping People Get Things Done by Brett Harned